Survivor 47 | Exit Interview with the First Player Voted Out – Ep 1

Rob Cesternino (@RobCesternino) interviews the latest castaway voted off the Survivor 47 island, followed by This Week In Survivor History with Jordan Kalish (@JordanKalish) where Rob plays against patron Lila Drasner.

Rob Cesternino interviews the first castaway eliminated from Survivor 47, Jon Lovett. The “Pod Save America” host dives into his short stint on the show and how he feels about the Andy call-out that led to his demise.

Jon Lovett, known for his work on “Pod Save America” and “Lovett or Leave It,” discusses his time on Survivor, including his unexpected challenges and how Andy’s actions impacted his game plan.

Jon and Rob discuss:

– How Jon navigated forming alliances and the impact of Andy’s unexpected behavior on his strategy.

– Jon’s thoughts on the importance of social connections and how they can make or break a player’s game.

– The behind-the-scenes insights Jon gained from his brief but intense Survivor experience.

– Jon’s candid reflections on being the first contestant voted out and how he balanced public perception with personal disappointment.

– Jon’s interest in returning to Survivor and what he hopes to achieve if given another chance

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FULL INTERVIEW

Rob Cesternino [0:02 – 0:16 ]: Hey, Jon. Good morning, Rob Cesternino, I am so bummed out to have you only in our Survivor world for one exciting day, but gone too soon.

Jon Lovett [0:17 – 0:21 ]: Gone but not forgotten. One day so far. One day so far.

Rob Cesternino [0:21 – 0:41 ]: One day so far. Okay, Jon, I watched the episode last night. I felt like you’re doing great. I really thought that you had so much. I thought going your way. I was not feeling like that you were in danger. And then we get to the vote, and then they’re all for you. What happened?

Jon Lovett [0:42 – 1:46 ]: So what. Such an important question. Yeah. So I’ve thought about this, and I. So there’s. After the immunity challenges, before the immunity challenge. After the immunity challenge, you think through all the different ways a challenge could go, a vote could go, relationships could go, strategy could go. I did not think enough about maybe I couldn’t have thought that much about what happens if somebody really loses it. Like, you know, you. We’ve all seen people kind of lose it, and we’ve all seen people turn on their alliances. It’s rare to put them together. Rare to put them together. Maybe never before have anyone seen anything like that. And so if Andy doesn’t flip out, I think there’s a lot of different paths it could have gone, and I would have, I think, been okay.

Rob Cesternino [1:46 – 1:51 ]: What would have happened had you just lost the challenge in a regular fashion?

Jon Lovett [1:52 – 2:54 ]: So, obviously, it’s a hypothetical, but what I had expected and hoped for is I had actually had a good relationship with Anika. The reason the vote ends up onto her is complicated, and there’s a lot of pieces you don’t see, but I had hoped and expected that Anika would have pulled in Rachel, I would have pulled in Andy, and that would have been a four. There were a few reasons for that, but there’s just a natural affinity there. Now, I did not see just how much. There had been a moment where Andy had alienated Rachel a bit, but I still think there was something connection with me and Anika. We could have pulled in Rachel. That was a natural group. But once Andy does that, it really narrows the possibilities. We get back and the conversation is pretty neat and clean, which is we got to get rid of Andy.

Rob Cesternino [2:54 – 2:55 ]: Yeah.

Jon Lovett [2:56 – 3:12 ]: But I just didn’t believe it at all. Like, this is what was frustrating about all of this is it’s not like I went into this with any kind of unawareness. I really was. I felt like I understood what was going on.

Rob Cesternino [3:12 – 3:39 ]: We got that. We get that. You took this very seriously, and you did a ton of research to get to this point. So when you have that conversation with the three women and they’re telling you, okay, it’s Andy and you’re. And you’re not buying it, that do you feel like that knowing what you know now that they were being straight with you, or do you feel like that you putting the Ana good name out there ultimately got it back to you?

Jon Lovett [3:40 – 3:48 ]: No. I feel very confident that what I was sensing was true.

Rob Cesternino [3:48 – 3:49 ]: Yeah.

Jon Lovett [3:49 – 5:43 ]: That I feel very confident that what I was sensing is true. That the vote was on me and it was to tell Andy it was me. Tell me it was Andy. Try to get me to not play the shot in the dark. I was a threat, Andy was not. And the challenge I had. Right. And the reason I ultimately tried to pull in, really, it was Andy because I do think he actually was uncertain, even though it was obvious to me that he was safe. That because Anika’s name had been floated before to try to get the vote on to Annika, because, basically, how do you persuade a group of people to vote for Andy when they’re already telling you the vote is Andy? Right. That’s such a strange, like, hey. Like, it’s, I think, pretty clear to all of us we need to vote Andy. We all agree. Shit. Like, I don’t. I like, and there’s moments I, like, had a pretty direct conversation with Rachel about this, which is like, Rachel, I understand you’re telling me that it’s Andy, and I understand why you’re doing that. I’m asking, can we please get a group together right now and have a serious conversation about why it actually should be right. Like, I was. There was a. There’s a bunch of different things I was trying. It was basically, as we headed into tribal, I was like, do I play the shot in the dark if I don’t have a regret about it? But I do think it would have been really funny. And I thought about doing this of, like, before I went up and voted, dumping my bag out and taking out the shot in the dark in front of everybody and going and playing it. But that is how sure. I basically felt like it wasn’t whether or not the vote was on me. It was, what do I think is more likely, a one in six chance with a shot in the darkest or the chances that I’ve actually pulled off getting the vote off of me? And I really felt like it was a wash. Like a one in six in both directions. Like, I had a small chance in both directions and I decided I’d rather go out voting than not voting.

Rob Cesternino [5:43 – 5:53 ]: Sure. So we saw you doing your best to try to connect with the group. Do you feel like that you made strides in connecting with them?

Jon Lovett [5:55 – 6:50 ]: Yes. You know, it’s such a short period of time, and, like, yo